In a few hours I will be on my way to Tucson for the big consciousness shin-dig! But first I have office hours and a full day of teaching…ah well. I may be slow in responding to comments (though I will respond to Josh in person in the form of a twenty minute drum solo entitled ‘Pain Asymbolics are in Pain, it’s just not Painful’ 🙂
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Richard Brown 
And I will respond by singing John Cougar Mellencamp’s “Hurts so good” AND a TWENTY FIVE minute guitar solo entitled “The pain of pain asymbolics IS painful, they just don’t know it, the jerks. ”
See ya in the desert! 🙂
Josh, since we haven’t yet talked about this stuff in person let me just say,
Everyone knows that drum solos trump guitar solos (like rock trumps scissors)!!!!
I agree that it is painful, but it is not painful FOR the asymbiolics which is what matters.